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No More SLLs (Sign Language Lessons) ┃ ASL Stew

(♪♪♪) (typewriter) Hi everybody welcome back. So, I guess I kind of need to give you an explaination. Recently I made a video about the new channel ASL Stew and I mentioned kind of briefly that I’m gonna stop doing the SLLs, the sign language lessons. Ummm…. I mean I have my reasons so I guess I’ll go ahead and kind of tell you the reason why. Umm now like I said, I’ve enjoyed working with everybody and see you guys improve and learning that you’ve grown and you’re learning and that is great and I want you guys to continue that. I want you to continue learning more sign. You know socializing with Deaf people more. It’s really really important but….. I don’t think I want to keep continuing teaching. In the begining of the video I had a definition of cultural appropriation. It has a very negative connotation to it, a perspective and I guess I kind of have a tough time explaning this, talking about it. Umm but I’m gonna try my to explain the reason behind why. I know some of you guys have been commenting saying you support me. You’re gonna miss the SLLs but you understand why and you’re excited for you know the new direction that this channel is gonna be going. So hopefully you continue to watch the channel and see all of the new exciting things that are gonna be happening but anyways. Let me kind of explain. Now understand I’m not D(d)eaf. I am hearing and I didn’t know any Deaf people growing up. I think the first time I saw sign language I was like a senior in high school and then I learned sign language through college classes. Later on after that obviously I was socializing more with Deaf people. But ASL is not my native or my first language, English is. You know so, I’m more comfortable using English. Obviously I am comfortable signing as well, but my instinct, my gut language is English. I think it’s better for Deaf people themselves to teach sign, teach ASL, sign language, whatever you want to call it. You know that’s how I learned. I learned from Deaf professors the entire way. From ASL 1 until the very end I had Deaf people teaching me. I think that really helped to improve my signing. You know working with Deaf people they know their own language. I as a hearing person have what’s called privelege, a hearing privelege. I’m gonna give a link to a video from Awti. You should definitley check out his channel, but he has a video talking all about the different situations and related with what’s called hearing privelege. So I will go ahead and link that so you can kind of get a better understanding. But I guess I feel like I as a hearing person have hearing privelege and so if I go ahead and teach sign language, that means you guys aren’t looking to a Deaf person who actually know more of what they’re doing and understands better. I didn’t not trying to take advantage or have any sort of ill intentions or anything, but I guess I just feel like it’s the right time to go ahead and let the Deaf take their own language. I feel like now is the time for me to do that. So I’m gonna go ahead and link a few different YouTube channels that I believe are good resources for learning sign langauge. Obviously I encourage your guys to to and take an ASL class from an actual Deaf professor. I.. I… really, really… you will love, I promise it will be great! So hopefully you guys understand and you will still support this channel even though there’s not gonna be anymore SLLs, but it’s gonna be a lot more fun information and things to come. Also, I just wanted to let you know that all of the SLL videos I do have I’m gonna be taking down umm from this channel as well as my old ASL WOWs. I will be taking all of those down. I know it’s a big decision and probably there’s gonna be complaints from people but I feel it’s the right thign to do. I feel it’s not appropriate for me to say you leave those vidoes. It’s kind of hypocritical if I do that. So, I’m gonna go ahead and take those videos down probably the same time that I’m actually uploading this. So again I apologize if you guys came for that to learn sign, but again umm like I said we’re gonna have other resources. So if you guys haven’t subscribed, go ahead and subscribe. I’ll have it up there and down below and I’ll see you all in the next video. Bye! [Jenna] questions or anything let me know as a comment below. Then I can read that and add it to the list so I can talk about it. [Jill] RIght so she is gonna be more…

72 Replies to “No More SLLs (Sign Language Lessons) ┃ ASL Stew”

  • Maybe this is a weird question, but what's it like to learn from a Deaf professor? Isn't there a communication barrier, especially when the students are just beginning?

  • I am a person who can hear. I would like to thank you for all of your videos, and not just the instructional sign language ones. when I was in elementary school, my fellow students and I, were taught sign language from grades 2-6; but because of my limited contact with people who use sign language, I had forgotten a great deal of what I was taught in my youth. thank you for channel, it was a good starting point for me to rediscover a language that should be introduced to everyone. good luck with your future endeavors. 😉

  • I support you! I totally understand where you are coming from. I am sad to see the lessons go, but I am excited to learn more about Deaf culture, ect from your wife and hear about interpreting things from you!

  • I still like this channel regardless. I'll definitely miss the SSL though, it showed me some differences in signs that I had never seen before. But I'm glad for all the new content coming this way. If people are looking for SSL style videos, Bill Vicars has one of the best channels for that. 🙂

  • Whilst I'm sad to see the SLLs go (I was using them to improve my vocab as well as taking sign language classes) I understand your decision. I've been taught British sign language in the past by a hearing teacher who was excellent. However, being taught by a Deaf teacher, as I am now, really transforms how I learn and makes me more motivated to improve.

    I'm really looking forward to learning more about Deaf culture and everything that's to come on this channel.

  • sad to see them go, but understand your position on the issue. looking forward to more videos from you guys! 🙂

  • I think I kind of understand where you're coming from, but I'll definitely miss your videos. I just found this channel last week to supplement an ASL class and I really liked your teaching, how you showed the sign at different angles so we can actually see what you're doing with your hand. I've watched other videos that don't explain as well, and since I'm a perfectionist, that makes it difficult… I'll still be watching though, you and Jenna are really fun to watch!

  • I know this was probably a hard decision to make but you handled it so well! Fully support 🙂 It's good to see most people respond well in the comments also. Excited for new videos topics!

  • I do disagree with the notion that you're abusing privilege with your ASL class, mainly for the fact that ASL resources and videos aren't exactly and oversaturated market. I do not feel like your attempts to make ASL more widely known and accessible are taking opportunities away from deaf people.
    Now, I'm hearing, so I can't claim that my opinion is in any way authoritative. But my deaf friends and acquaintances are more than happy to see people spread ASL awareness and create more accessibility.
    I, myself, liken this to other languages. Being a non-native English speaker that picked up the language during my teens, I had teachers, programs and resources that came from a multitude of different sources, only a small portion of those being created by native speakers. Were native English speakers robbed by this fact, was this appropriative? I truly doubt that. Now, yes, Deaf community is a lot more insular and has been marginalized for decades, I understand them being cautious about loss of culture or job opportunities. But I remain unconvinced that supplementary videos such as yours are insulting or injurious to the Deaf community or educators. After all, most people using them are already taking ASL courses or trying to refresh their skills, only a small minority would use youtube videos as the only learning resource (generally only in cases where asl courses are unavailable).
    But this is just my viewpoint. It is your channel and your decision to make, and if creating SSL videos makes you uncomfortable… It's perfectly understandable for you to change course. Have fun with your new direction!

  • I understand fully. I know ASL but I always enjoyed your SLL videos just to see different regional signs or signs that have gotten warped over time. (I grew up signing since I am HOH/deaf but I was isolated from the Deaf community – so things have slowly morphed over time?) I'm sad that you'll take down your backlog of videos, but I'm sure it's a hard decision for you. Keep on doing you, ladies. You're doing great. I'm looking forward to what you and your wife have in store 😀

  • Maybe it's because I'm learning a different language from ASL, but I always skip the SSL videos anyway. I'm here for the culture & interpreting related videos. The first one I watched was tips for deaf-hearing relationships.

  • totally understand, I've seen awti his videos, are awesome, and I can't wait to see what ur gonna be doing, in the new channel !! 👍

  • I really do wish that you were still making sign language teaching videos but I do understand. I learn in a very strange way. I've bought so many books and DVDs about learning sign language and it just would not stick to my brain. When I started watching your videos I could actually remember the signs! It was so awesome. I realized that it was because of you talking that I could remember. Now that you're not doing these videos anymore it will be so hard to try to continue learning ASL. I haven't found any Deaf teachers who can speak verbally. I want to become an interpreter so bad! I've wanted to ever since I was little (I'm 16 now) and I hope I can. I will still always watch your videos and be subscribed.

  • I know it can be considered rude by some Deaf people to be a hearing ASL teacher whose first language is English, however, I am wanting to change majors to ASL teacher, and I don't see anything wrong with it, (plus all my deaf friends and teachers I told all support it) we had a temporary teacher who is Deaf for my high school ASL class when my original teacher was on leave, and everything was slower and more difficult. Because it was ASL 1 we didn't know any sign, nor how to effectively communicate besides writing every single thing down. I believe for ASL 1 and 2, it shouldn't be frowned upon for the teacher to be hearing when teaching HEARING kids. I am in college now with a deaf professor, and because we are now more advanced communication is not a problem and we learn everything fast and we are forced to use the language which really helps us. I'm sorry if this came off rude, I just don't agree with your opinion on this, but I respect your decision and still LOVE this channel!

  • I need some advice I want to talk (sign) to a boy that is deaf in my class but I'm kinda nervous I might mess up or maybe not understand some of his signing should I just go for it?

  • Oh my gosh! Bill Vicars is amazing! I've been learning from his videos for a while now and I have learned sooooo much!!!

  • We'll miss your videos, but I understand where you're coming from. And respect for supporting the Deaf community in this way. I'm sad to see the videos taken down because I feel that they're an asset, but it takes brave to support the community in this way. Good luck!

  • Jill,
    Do you know if you will focus future videos on Deaf-Hearing Relationships? I saw the Tips video and thought your six tips was a wonderful start. I actually conduct research on Deaf-Hearing Relationships and would like to see more on Deaf-Hearing Relationships.

  • I had a feeling this was the reason and I think it's an important rationale. I do think that encouraging people to take actual classes is very good – I was using the videos as supplements to my class, but I think this statement around hearing privilege is important for us subscribers to think about.

    I should tell you that the first video I found of yours was "Toilet Problems" and I thought it was hilarious!

  • I don't get this….why is it such a bad thing to learn sign or even teach it as a hearing person? You're expanding your knowledge and understanding of deaf/HOH people by doing so. I do not see how this is cultural appropriation. o_O

  • So you're not teaching because dumb reasons. Hearing privilege doesn't exist. That's nonsense. No language belongs to one set of people. It's not something you own.
    It's not something you deny another person.

    Learning a language is not appropriation.

    By your own reasoning non-native English speakers should not be teaching English. That's absurd.

    I'm profoundly hearing impaired and always have been. I find your reasons to be ludicrous.

  • Hi Jill! I get what you're saying, but I disagree with you that, in your case, it's cultural appropriation. According to the definition you posted, it could be, but other definitions include the phrase "by someone who is not a member of that community." And you ARE a member of the Deaf community, even though you're not deaf. It's your decision whether to make the videos or not, of course, but I don't think you should feel guilty for the videos being up (or for making ad dollars from them), because your videos were always respectful and accurate and they took a lot of time to put together. It's nothing like the people who don't know the language, who aren't part of the community, who are just looking to make money off of videos that are offensive or boring to Deaf people. (I don't want to name names, but a lot of those singing and signing videos have pretty ho-hum signing and are clearly intended for hearing people who think it's "pretty.") There are plenty of people in this world who teach languages who are not their own – Russians teaching English to Russians, Chinese teaching French to Chinese people, etc. – and I don't think it's any different for ASL. When I was learning Russian, native English speakers were generally better teachers at the beginning levels (because they can explain grammar from an English viewpoint) and native Russian speakers were generally better at the more advanced levels (because they can explain nuance and have a feel for the complicated grammar). As I'm learning ASL, I've been gradually transitioning from hearing to Deaf teachers. I probably would have benefited from diving in with a Deaf teacher from the beginning, but actually my first teacher was a hearing woman who'd been married to a Deaf man, and she was part of the Deaf community – her friends even called her honorary Deaf (or something like that). The identity of the teacher is much less important that their cultural, linguistic and pedagogical competence. I hope no one has lumped you in with the "teachers" who clearly are taking advantage – that's not you. Again, I respect your decision to take down your videos, and the teachers you linked to are all GREAT teachers that I also learn from, but I don't think that what you do takes away from what they do – your videos fill a different niche.

  • nooooo! this was the channel I lover the most! I related to you so much! with the interpretation,being in the LGBT community ….sigh* I used this for extra praise out side of my AS class. but it's your channel do as you wish

  • Jill, I think this was a really brave video to make. It must not have been easy to take down all those videos — you spent so much time on them. Good for you for doing what you think is right!

  • i have followed and enjoyed your work on youtube for a long while, and i really support and respect the decision you have made, and the thoughtfulness with which you've carried out and explained your decision. i am excited to see what the future of your channel will hold. thank you for your graciousness

  • I have a question for you about culture appropriation.   My young son has autism with limited verbal skills as well as understanding of verbal language.  We decided to teach him ASL to give him a way to communicate with us.  Is it culture appropriation for a non verbal hearing child like my son to use a language created by and for the deaf community?

  • I am a college student going to school for Deaf Studies. I am hearing. Not only do I want to teach ASL, but I also want to be an interpreter. I learned ASL because
    -I am a selective mute due to anxiety. Sometimes I cannot speak and must have a way to communicate other than writing.
    -I identify with deaf people much more than with hearing people.
    -The language is beautiful, and has helped me find out more about myself and who I am.

    upon watching this video…it made me question whether or not this is the right career for me even though i am hearing….and it is. 100% I have never felt more love than when I am communicating in ASL, I have never had someone actually listen to me. with ASL… you have to look at me to "hear" me. i've never been heard. I want to show hearing, deaf, mute, HH, and ANY person…that there are so many ways to express yourself and to learn those ways in ASL with other people who came into that classroom for the same reasons you did is so beautiful. I learned a lot from my 1st deaf professor (who's first language is english), but the most important thing she taught me was that I could find my voice without speaking a single word. I told her that my life goal was to spread that message to as many people as i could. and she told me that I was made for this

    . I support your decision and understand how you feel… but to anyone who feels like i did while watching this video, it isnt appropriation, if youre in it for the right reasons. Dont learn it as a trend, learn it with purpose, and love for the community and culture. that to me is what separates appropriation from APPRECIATION. 🙂

  • I see mixed comments and, as one who has been in your shoes, I want you to know I get it. As a young interpreter I need to find a balance between what was once a hobby, and now is a career. I need to show respect for the Deaf community that encouraged me, taught me, mentored me and now currently keeps me working. These are really tough issues you're talking about and I too have a hard time putting it into words. I can see why people don't agree, but I think the more educated people are on the topic the more they would agree. You are right in everything that you said, go with your gut girl. Also, side note, you passed on other resources for people to use. How awesome are you for that!? Seriously, great job standing up for what you think is right. It's not always easy.

  • I totally get what you are saying. I am a homeschool mom, so when I was looking for French and Korean language tutors I sought out native speakers. I chose tutors where French and Korean were their first language. I wish you well! Namaste!

  • How are deaf people suppose to teach hearing people, that's like if I took a Spanish class where the teacher only spoke Spanish, the SLLS were my favorite vids but whatever

  • If anyone is looking for a good vocabulary resource, @signedwithheart on instagram is wonderful. She's deaf and posts new signs almost every day. I've built up a lot of vocab from her videos

  • Hello! I just wanted to say that I support you're decision on not continuing on with ASL lessons, because I agree that the Deaf should have authority over their language and are (for a lack of better wording) "more fit". I recently had to explain to my family members why as a hearing person it would be wrong of me to teach ASL. I understand where you're coming from 🙂

  • While I'm sort of mixed about this, as a HH person who wants more opportunities for immersion in Deaf culture and to become "more Deaf" (I understand ASL and use interpreters for my own language access but don't sign well enough to feel comfortable going to Deaf stuff often), I also want to give some support for your decision. It definitely annoys me when all the ASL stuff online is hearing people and sometimes not even correct, and I'm frustrated by some of the appropriative trends. If I see one more person come up to my interpreter at an event and say "OMG ASL is such a BEAUTIFUL language!" I may lose it.

    But even without your SLLs, I appreciate the channel as a kind of learning resource, since your and your wife's styles of signing are easier for me to follow than some (I primarily use interpreters who sign in PSE + interpret "on the mouth") and it's good for me to have immersion in between interpreted events. I pick up phrasing this way from you, and it's especially cool to have a queer couple doing it.

  • 1- I think this is a great idea, Bill Vicars is a great teacher and he really needs more coverage. There is currently a hearing British girl "teaching ASL" on youtube who has a million views and most of what she is teaching is incorrect, but people don't know, and they don't think to question her.
    2- I'm kind of upset that the first two comments I saw called your reason for taking down the videos "dumb" especially since dumb is a derogatory term STILL used to refer to non-verbal d/Deaf people. I think they need to take some time to learn more about Deaf culture in order to properly respect d/Deaf/HoH people.

  • Social justice and political correctness are going to destroy our country. I am sure that you sign much better than a lot of deaf people. Some deaf people don't even sign. If you were suddenly deaf tomorrow, would you instantly be more qualified to teach? You would be deaf. My point is that the whole hearing privilege, white privilege, man privilege is out of control. I'd much rather learn ASL from a hearing personal who understands ASL grammar than from a deaf person who signs PSE and uses conceptually inaccurate signs. I teach my friends and family ASL and I am hearing. Is that a sin? Every deaf person is different. Some sign. Some do not sign. Some sign ASL. Some sign other forms of communication that aren't considered real languages. I thought the USA was a melting pot. There is so much hypocrisy in trying to be inclusive, but then we use terms that segregate, like when we call some people "Mexican-American, Asian-American, African-American, but then refer to other people as just "American" or "Anglo." If we are a melting pot, then we have to stop allowing this whole social justice thing to make minorities a protected underclass. Each person is an individual. As long as we say that we are inclusive to minorities, but then we exclude the majority then we are being hypocrites and perpetuating these problems. We are not allowed to discriminate against people because of their color, for example, for Miss America Pageants or a Congressional Caucus, but it's alright for the "Miss Black America Pageant" and "Congressional Black Caucus" to exclude those who are not African-Americans. Membership in the Congressional Black Caucus is exclusive to African-Americans. The reason these discriminatory and hypocritical practices are allowed by the majority is because somehow we are convinced that because of historical treatment of some people, retribution should be made and that things are still unfair. If ASL is a native to Deaf, then does that mean that a spoken language, English, is not and they have no right using English? See the double standard? I know deaf people who do not sign, but rather speak perfect English. Should we not allow a Deaf person who reads and writes perfect English to teach English writing or another English-language related subject if competent? There are double standards all over the place.

    You were obviously criticized for teaching ASL and you felt pressured to stop teaching Sign Language Lessons. I could even see your hands shaking while you signed, not to mention the anguish on your face. You were obviously quite rattled about it. The more I learn about the Deaf community, ASL, their opinions on Audism, Interpreter Roles, Deaf Politics, and everything related to it, the more I want to avoid it. The Deaf Community discriminates against deaf people who don't agree with their ideologies. I see what they teach and I just need to say that not all of us are drinking the Kool-Aid and see it for what it is. I know ASL and I have a deaf niece. I hope she will learn to appreciate both worlds and will not find the typical excuses for not succeeding in life.

  • I just stumbled upon this video and what u r saying is that a deaf person should teach ASL – but not all deaf ppl r "good" teachers just like all hearing ppl r not good at teaching English or anything for that matter. I have a ASL tutor 4 my special needs daughter and tutor is deaf and she is NOT the greatest in "teaching" her language. Now we had a previous ASL tutor and she was hearing and she WAS a teacher. She knew how 2 teach ASL – this is why I thought your reason was a bit odd – but no matter to me I wasn't a subscriber 2 your channel. Just feel bad that if u were a "good" teacher your subscribers now have lost a good teacher and good can b hard 2 find 💕🐢💕

  • I really enjoy your channel. I am actually subscribed to yours and all the others you suggested. I saw the video your telling about that you said is you're reason for changing as well as telling the other videos down. To be honest of you feel it's what you should do and right for you, then in the end that's really all that matters. I think you have an amazing channel and I love the ones you and you're wife do together. I look forward to watching many more of your videos. ☺💕

  • Then how do you feel about other language teachers like a Spanish teacher who is teaching it and it is not their first language? (Like it often times is not)

  • But what about the idea that as a hearing person who is essentially fluent in ASL/PSE etc. you have a unique perspective to offer other hearing learners? For example, French is my second language even though I've been speaking it since age 6 or 7, I am not French by birth and it is not my native culture. However as a native English speaker I have a valuable perspective to offer other native anglophones learning French because my experience becoming francophone is different from the native context. In other words, I know how to make sense of difficult sociolinguistic concepts for native English speakers that a native francophone teacher might never consider because they didn't need to go through the process of secondary apprehension; to them it's obvious. So when it comes to pure linguistic instruction, I don't think there's a risk of true appropriation. I do however believe the onus is on the non-native instructor to be always aware of the risk of passing on wrong assumptions about the

  • Culture in question and to always defer to the native speaker's explanation about matters where the non-native instructor might be a little ignorant.

  • I totally get this, I am being taught BSL by a deaf person. I think it's totally awesome that someone of the deaf culture gets to teach me and I get how it would seem if a hearing person tried to take that away from a deaf person. This is their way off speaking like you say you've a privilege! Because you have learnt and now know it totally get your reason behind this! Support you 100% wish me luck if you can ive my topics exam tomorrow for Bsl 102 so nervous but I'm glad it's on families! I love signing and I really hope that I pass this!

  • Without the liaison of a hearing person teaching asl a lot of people would not be able to get to the level of being able to communicate with people that have been deaf all of their lives. You should not be discouraged from teaching asl lessons because you probably have helped more people than you realize, and you are improving communication between deaf and hearing people. So thank you and please continue.

  • discouraging big time… i dont get it. if a non native speaker teaches Spanish no Spanish speaking person will have a problem

  • I'm sure this was a rough decision. I think your decision shows tremendous respect for the Deaf community. I just wanted to send some positivity because I know there's many that don't understand and are angry. Ignore them. Thank you and I'll keep watching your other videos!

  • Perhaps instead of an SLL you could do a SL Comparison video of specific nuances that you- as a hearing person- have noticed/learned that were from experiences outside the typical ASL classroom, and perhaps something that Deaf instructors might not know instinctively to teach about- like idioms, or regional signs local to your area. Think "culture shock" things. For example I just moved to Florida from CA. The groceries stores here don't sell hard liquor (they did in CA), the state doesn't charge income tax (CA sure does), there are mosquitoes here (there weren't where we were in CA), the hearing people here say "maam" and "sir" (only the military people did that back in CA).. Meeting native Floridians they would have never known to teach me all of these things, because they often don't know that something is different. I think that Deaf and hearing alike could benefit from your experiences as going from one world to another in a sense.

  • I guess I never saw any of those videos, but I completely understand your reasoning! My professor is deaf, and I have learned so much from him… you guys are fun to watch either way, and a great way to practice what I've learned in class! Thank you! 😀

  • you can save all your videos on your private computer. You'll never know these may come in handy some other time. Yes, I'm deaf of deaf myself.

  • I am so glad that you gave this explanation. I wanted to share with you my two part process for learning- I come to yours and Jenna's channel (as well Rikki Poynter, so far) to learn about things like Deaf culture, Deaf history, hearing/Deaf relationships and then I go to Dr. Bill Vicars' Lifeprint to work on learning ASL.

  • A language is a tool. Saying that learning sign language from a hearing person "appropriates" the "culture" of Deaf people (or that learning English from a nonnative speaker "appropriates" the culture of… what, English people? Americans? Never mind, if I try to wrap my brain around the nonsensicality of the concept of "cultural appropriation," I'll never finish this sentence) is akin to saying that learning how to hammer a nail from your dad "appropriates" the culture of carpenters. So what? People should learn how to be carpenters because having carpenters is useful, even if some weird subculture of carpenters would prefer that nobody who doesn't meet their definition of a "real" carpenter teach the trade.

    You might get somewhere with an argument that learning a language from a nonnative speaker is ineffectual, but that has nothing to do with "cultural appropriation"; it's just an issue of pedagogy. And in the specific case of languages with a very limited pool of native speakers, saying you should "only" learn the language from a native speaker puts that language on a rocket sled to extinction. I very much doubt that that is your goal.

    Let me give a non-ASL example of this. Virtually nobody in Ireland under the age of 60 speaks Irish anymore as their first language. As a pure matter of social efficiency, the language is going extinct, because everyone speaks English anyway and English is much more useful. Many people would prefer that this not happen for essentially aesthetic and cultural reasons. As a result, Irish is part of the school curriculum there, as well as being an official language for government documents and the like. But there are not anywhere near enough native Irish speakers to teach even a fraction of schoolchildren. In 40 or 50 years there will be none of them left. In 90 or 100 years, even the handful of people who learned Irish from those native speakers will be dead, and the language with it. It seems to me obviously better to have nonnative Irish speakers teach the language than to simply watch it die because you do not want to "appropriate" the "culture" of the pockets of remnant Irish native speakers.

    I could produce a thousand other absurdities (Catholic rites were entirely "appropriated" until Vatican II because everyone was speaking Latin? Everyone who speaks Modern Hebrew is engaging in "appropriation" because the language was dead until it was revived by the Zionists? My head is going to explode.) but there's no point. It's deeply sad to me that someone would cease to do a useful service to society because of some misguided notion that doing so constitutes "cultural appropriation," but until that particular shibboleth is entombed with past examples of academic silliness like phrenology and epicycles, I suppose it can't be helped.

  • Why is the deaf community so selfish? Its a language just like French and Spanish. English is my 2nd language and Im positive I can teach someone else and Im 100% sure that person will learn and love the language as much as I do. I really like some of your videos and your signing is very good but this whole thing about hearing privileges is nonsense. You're basically saying that is not ok for hearing people to teach because is not "their" language.
    So if a deaf kid is denied an education at a hearing school because he is deaf that can be considered as discrimination but if you and your girlfriend tell me to stop learning asl because im hearing and dont know any deaf person and it is "pointless" for me to learn (like she actually said in one of their videos) is just appropriate because its "her" language.
    Well, thas bullshit.

  • Sadly there are not enough people who are deaf who are teaching SL, this means the gap has to be filled by someone. As long as people are being educated what does it matter whether the teacher is or is not deaf? The more people who can communicate in SL the better.

    Being able to communicate and teach a language is not cultural appropriation. Anyone who says it is needs a metaphorical slap and told to get over themselves. In this area intent is what is important.

  • I hear what your saying but let me tell you my experience. I've taken all the ASL classes offered in my area. 2 years of ASL in high school and 1 years of ASL in college. Neither of them had deaf teachers. As a woman who genuinely wants to learn ASL for my career, and not for cultural appropriation this is very sad news. It extremely hard to find ASL channels on YouTube. The few deaf people I've found on YouTube that know ASL won't teach ASL because they are still learning/"students" of ASL. And the couple of channels that are fluent in ASL aren't teaching it. They use full speed ASL (much faster then Jills) and it's very challenging to understand or learn. I like Bill Vicars and ASL that, but learning short sentences and vocabulary is still beginner ASL to me. Where can we learn advanced ASL if we still don't know enough to directly converse with the deaf public? If advanced intreperter won't teach ASL and deaf people won't teach ASL, us trying to learn it are stuck with mostly hearing, non proficient ASL users. It's sad.

  • No hate , but This doesn’t make sense to me . My first ASL teacher in 10th grade was hearing and she taught me TONS of info about asl and culture within the school year that I will use for the rest of my life. She has changed my life in the way I view the world and a deaf person, I didn’t even know deaf culture existed before this . I don’t think there is a problem that’s she’s not deaf, she was still super smart and knew everything about asl. My current asl teacher is deaf and they have very different teaching styles, I love them both sm, but I did learned more my first year of asl. I also study Spanish and I’ve never had a native Spanish speaker teach me, but again I still learned and the teachers knew what they were doing because they were fluent . I don’t understand when you say if you’re not a native speaker you shouldn’t teach?

  • Hope more hearing see this and stop making videos teaching ASL. Most of the time they do PSE. As a mother of a Deaf son and Wife to a Deaf hubby I support this. Also I am Mexican part of a minority group.
    So do what is right ! Other will follow. Native signers should be teaching ASL, Deaf Culture ect. They have been through it.

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